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I cant believe people are still trying to compare the 360 to the PS3, or even the Wii, Ok first of all the 360 is the only one that is actually out on the market, it is the only one that is being played, so you cant compare it to something that doesnt even exist. And secondly you shouldnt even talk about the PS3's price because its not even for sale yet, and you cant say its online is free because its not even online!!, In fact it doesnt even plan on being online for the first year. Now other the other end of the spectrum is the Wii, hmmm yeah this is very inovative and new, but its definetly not impressive, yeah i can wave a controller around the room and wow my friends but graphicly its not much better than the Game Cube. If you want a kick ass machine that is backed by an impressive company then you should really think about buying a 360, and going online, because that my friends is what its all about!
Wow this is the most biased thing i have ever seen. Who the hell even bought the "core" version of an xbox. They take the core package and add everything that is missing compared to the premium pack, making it basically 2x the prise. Stupidest thing i have ever seen!
it makes me sad how defensive 360 FANBOYS are both system are great but if your have the money and more out of your system then you get the ps3. the comparison between the 2 console is right so stop making a huge deal of it.
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GUYS, DONT GET SO HAPPY THAT WII CONSOLE COST $250, BECAUSE IF U WANT TO UNLOCK ALL THE WII's FEATURES U NEED TO PAY.................
wii console---$250
wii controller--$400 (cause 4 of them)
wii claxControll--$150 (cause 4 of them)
game cube controll---$90 (cause 4 of them)
wii memory SD card--$100? (if u wana play MP3)
wii online-----$50 after 6 month(50 every month)
PLUS UR GAMECUBE AND WII GAMES
TOTAL : $1000+
IM A NINTENDO FAN AND THEY ARE TRICKING U!!
if u want to get all the feature on wii u will need to spend about $1000 + games
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Umm, yea...
Console: $250
Control w/Nunchuk: $60 for 3 sets
(umm..whats a claxControll?)
(no need to buy gamecube controls, only if you already got them....)
SD card: around $20 for 2 gigs, do some shopping
(Maybe two classic remotes: $40 for 2)
(has online even been anounced?)
Also, why are you throwing in a gamecube n such?
games are expected $30 - $50(not official)
Total + console+controls+n the sd stick for the heck of it, so like, $380 n probably $450 with some games.
ref. http://wii.qj.net/index.php?pg+49+aid+68647
are you just some bored kid or something,(i just got some time before i gotta go to work...)
Hey, Sony why not add a wireless wheel, a wireless headset, and a vision cam. I mean those are "required" too right. Hey look Xbox 360 is $950 and our beloved PS3 is still only $599. Cmon.... Obviously, PS3 fans will be like "Yes, GO Sony!" but let's try to do this a little differently.
How come Sony doesn't say a HDMI or an HD cable is required. (Not in the core PS3, don't know about the premium PS3) I mean if BR is required then so is the HDMI cable right, otherwise it defeats the purpose of BluRay.
"Oh crap, forgot about that one. Good Call" - Sony
How many people have HDTVs and How many of those with HDTV will use a console other than for playing games. Well let's do the math: about 10% of people have HDTVs (I'm being nice). And out of those 10%, maybe 25% will actually use it for movies on a PS3 (Remember HD-DVD and BR movies are $20 more than DVDs, so yea...) Let's say Sony sells 500,000 for launch which with no doubt will happen. 500,000*0.1*0.25= 12500 BR users Hmmm, not an instant 500,000 people base with BR is it?. Same will happen with the HD-DVD addon for 360. So boom 2 points in one: 1. PS3 won't help out BR that much 2. HD-DVD is not required and very few will buy it. Since the majority won't buy the HD-DVD addon, we can easily take out HD-DVD out of the equation because WE CAN. Too bad I can't rip out the BR drive out of the PS3 cause its integrated. So, $599 no matter what.
Hey Sony, PS3 core system once bought will not have WiFi support.... No matter what. Its just not there. 360 people at least buy one, but PS3 core people can't. So why did I bring this up, because no one will buy the PS3 core system . Its crap. Lets just use the PS3 premium system. So don't flamed me for using the Premium system just to make the price sound higher. (Same applies to Xbox 360 core system)
Any idiot knows that add-ons separately are always more expensive than bundles. So let's use Premium Xbox 360 and Premium PS3 as I mentioned why in the previous paragraph).
Premium Xbox 360 ($400)
Wifi Adapter ($100)
12 month XBL ($50)
TOTAL: $550
Premium PS3 ($600)
HD cable ($40) - if not included in the box
-------or---------------
HDMI cable ($100) - if not included in the box
TOTAL: $700
Hmmm...... Then again, 360's Live is better because only cheese in a mouse trap is free. Cmon, seriously, how will sony maintain PS3's Online gaming.... You have to maintain the servers somehow which means you got to pay people. Sony is already losing money which is a first for them and don't plan on losing more just to make you happy.
One of three things will happen (TAKE MY WORD):
1. They make you pay down the road (Not directly, but separately for games) so there is no lag.
2. They'll copy Microsoft and have two subscription types. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX PEOPLE. They said that the Store, Downloads, Friend Chat is ALL GOING to be free. Well yea, you can do same with 360 (Silver membership - $0) BUT GAMES ONLINE, they never mentioned anything about the GAMES. (I smell something Gold along the lines - paid subscription).
3. IT WILL BE FREE - but lag happens. (Take economics - OPPORTUNITY COST) You always sacrifice something for something else. It's a given.
So maybe I should take out XBL out of the equation too for now.
New Totals:
Xbox 360 - $500
PS3 - $700
PS3 fanboys don't flame me because you know as well as I do, its all part of Marketing. I mean. For god's sake, the comparisons came directly from SONY. (no bias right?). Obviously, they need a way to justify PS3's price over 360's. This is the only route they could take. (Pretty low eh?) But then again, why should I get flamed right. This is a 360 site and why in a world would a PS3 fanboy read this. Only one reason I can think of: Justify PS3 and defend it? Jealous maybe?
I know there is a flaw on that SONY Fact Sheet. But here is the corrected one. I'll give you four scenarios based on my computation. Here are the things that each owner should buy when purchasing a PS3 Premium or XBOX 360 Pro. And its a MUST!
1. XBOX 360 Pro - $400
- quick charge kit - $30 (need to charge your wireless controller)
- 5 Yrs XBL subscription - $250
TOTAL : $680
2. XBOX 360 Pro - $400
- quick charge kit - $30 (need to charge your wireless controller)
- 5 Yrs XBL subscription - $250
- HD-DVD player - $200 (optional)
TOTAL : $880
3. PS3 Premium - $600
- HD cable - $40
- Headset - $20
- 5 Yrs Playstation Online subscription - $0
TOTAL : $660
4. PS3 Premium - $600
- HDMI cable - $100
- Headset - $20
- 5 Yrs Playstation Online subscription - $0
TOTAL : $720
Why would you take out XBL on your equation? PS3 owners can go and play online for FREE. That is not the case with XBOX 360 when you want to play HALO with other players. that's why developers put the online feauture in that game so it can be used. If you compare it XBOX 360 is still expensive than PS3. And take note we have Blu-ray, extra 40GB hard drive, SD slot and WiFi. Take note that is not included in my computation.
HALO 3 is the most anticipated game for XBOX 360. In order for you to appreciate that game FULLY you need to subscribe for XBL gold. so again why would you take out XBL in your equation? That's the REMAINING bragging rights of every XBOX 360 owner...remember?
PS3 online is FREE..same as PC. And that's not gonna change. Who's jealous? When we can play FREE online.
I think the playstation side of qj has the same comments, I think they have the same comments as the xbox side.
...buy the system you want, and let the other guy buy the system he wants. I know in the US it's pretty bad with Big Brother telling you what to do, but that doesn't mean you have to force your beliefs onto the other guy.
So wow a 10$ HDMI cable is not included, boo hoo, I ready have two, get em online dweebs, lol.
Where is Sony getting that the Wii's Internet service is only free for 6 months?
This chart is a bunch of lies. Sony is a bunch of liars. And they are so far in the whole that they are stretching things to try and make up for their lost ground.
If you buy the $399 Premium unit it comes with a wireless controller and one year of Xbox Live, striking $100 off that screwed up total. That means you would only need to buy the HD-DVD add-on for $199, making it $598, to compare it to the 20GB PS3 model. A $99 difference, not $199.
What do you say about that Phony?
"Any idiot" knows that HDMI cables do not cost $100... unless you like getting ripped off by Monster
You're not getting flamed by a PS3 fanboy, but by a normal, rational person.
And "will", the comparsion is not right and you know it. They compared the Core + HDD + 1 year XBL + wireless controller to Premium PS3 for Christ's sake! Who would buy all that after a Core? Who would buy a Core in the first place? Like the guy above me said, buying the Premium comes with all those things, taking $100 off that total Sony gave. Just be quiet
"So you may not need it now, but im damn dure youll need it in the future. And dont tell me your 20GB or even 100GB HD is gona hold HD games, cos it wont. Portable media isnt going anywhere for a very long time."
8 gbs the size of my thumbnail... want to continue to tell me that portable media isn't much of anything?
100gb is not enough to hold HD games?... seems like DVDs do pretty well at just that.. so i'm assuming 100 gb will be enough.. which will never be necessay...as xcompression gets betters and real time rendering.. who needs all that space..
@ Somewhere
Main you didn't read my last paragraph or comepletely missed my point:
"Hmmm...... Then again, 360's Live is better because only cheese in a mouse trap is free. Cmon, seriously, how will sony maintain PS3's Online gaming.... You have to maintain the servers somehow which means you got to pay people. Sony is already losing money which is a first for them and don't plan on losing more just to make you happy.
One of three things will happen (TAKE MY WORD):
1. They make you pay down the road (Not directly, but separately for games) so there is no lag.
2. They'll copy Microsoft and have two subscription types. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX PEOPLE. They said that the Store, Downloads, Friend Chat is ALL GOING to be free. Well yea, you can do same with 360 (Silver membership - {COMMENT_BODY}) BUT GAMES ONLINE, they never mentioned anything about the GAMES. (I smell something Gold along the lines - paid subscription).
3. IT WILL BE FREE - but lag happens. (Take economics - OPPORTUNITY COST) You always sacrifice something for something else. It's a given." -cerberus414
The two will cancel each other out. Rofl. Remember my words. Sony or Developers WILL CHARGE MONEY FOR ONLINE GAMING.
sorry but SONY have reiterated again and again that if PC is FREE then PS3 too when it comes to playing online games. the only thing that i can see PS3 owners paying online is extra content. example are extra levels, extra weapon, classic jerseys or classic players (michael jordan) when it comes to sports games. but it will still be FREE. EA and SEGA have been doing online games way before XBOX LIVE. they didn't even charge the PS2 owners for a dime.
If PC developers can find ways not to charge consumers, so can SONY. FREE online capabilities is one of their selling point why would they change their strategy? Advertisement is one way they can generate income. Maybe SONY can take a lesser share for their royalties to those developers who implement online features for their game. If they say that its FREE, then literally its FREE. They are not dumb to charge PS3 "potential" buyers because once they do that nobody is going to buy a PS3...duh! It seems like you want SONY to charge their consumers like what MICROSOFT is doing to you. Sorry it won't happen....keep dreaming...hehe.
Does anyone realize sony never publicly released the specs for their GPU, Microsoft did, xbox 360, 500 million polygons per/sec, how fast is the playstation 3 GPU, anyone knows, send me a link or something, please send me a reliable source like nvidia, not word of mouth, please.
You said (So you may not need it now, but im damn dure youll need it in the future). I say when in the future if it is 5 years from now it will not matter we will all be looking foward to the next game systems, remember sony did say they want playstation 3 to last 10 years but I doubt anyone will care about playstation 3 when the next systems come out, just like playstation 2 is slowly going to die when playstation 3 comes out.
the PS3 is the ferrari of game consoles.
Yeah the DVD games will cost the same, but at this moment Sony doesn't have the guts to tell everybody the price of their blu-ray games. They are waiting for the launch day to hit the poor bastards who buy the system with a tag of $80.00, $90.00 or even $100.00 bucks because "is new technology" and everybody wants it. And don't come here with stupid comments , becuse what I'm saying real, in less that a month the PS3 launches, and the price for this games is not revelaed yet.
They said launch titles will be .99 just to match Xbox's prices. Meaning, if it wasn't for the Xbox 360, we'd be all buying PS3s with games costing over . They might still implent higher prices down the road though because right now all they care about is people buying out their consoles, and having games at this moment wouldn't be the best choice.
Also, @ somewhere
What Online PC games are you talking about. If you mean like Steam: Counter Strike, Half-Life, etc. Then yea, but those games are from the last decade. What about current gen games like WoW? /month. Man that rocks. Even Final Fantasy Online for PC is a paid subscription (/month). Since WoW has over 7 million people playing, they need some nice servers which you need to maintain, you also need Moneh!!!. But what's nice about WoW is that servers are almost flawless (no lag), they got GMs and amazing Customer Service. If you think Sony will do all that for free, then you my friend are an idiot. The only reason why steam doesn't charge money is because they are flooding it with new games right now which is paying off. (Oh yea they were also out for 6 years now, a little too late you might say)
Its not .99. I meant to say 59.99
"costing over $80"
These no comment thingies suck cuz they don't register half of my words.
@cerberus414
About PRICING, it would still be $60 for most of the games and $70 for AA games. If they are going to raise the price, then that would be 3 yrs from now or more in my opinion. If they going to raise it, it will only be $5 more...so you are looking around $65 for regular games and $75 for AA games down the road. If you think about it that's a 50GB Blu-Ray which plays 1080p compare to your DVD9.
About ONLINE, WOW, Final Fantasy Online, EverQuest, City of Villains etc. are all MMORPG. MMORPG is not FREE where did you get that idea...IDIOT? I never said that MMORPG is FREE...you did...not me. Except for GUILD WARS...they might release a MMORPG free online but i doubt that it will happen. But other than that all genres like SPORTS, FPS, Fighting, Adventure, etc. are all free and don't need subscription.
How about EXCLUSIVES games? Where are the exclusive games for XBOX 360? most of the AA games that are supposed to be exclusive are coming out on PC and PS3 too. All that's left are GOW, Bioshock, and HALO and they are all FPS, where's the variety of that? FPS won't save XBOX 360 alone. Blue Dragon is the only RPG worth mentioning. And without the support of Japanese developers they will never dominate the gaming industy...and that's a FACT!
Three types of games sell in japan the most, action, sports, and rpgs, xbox 360 has lost odyssey, infinite undiscovery and more rpgs coming exclusively, xbox 360 also have third party games, winning eleven soccer from konami, that game sold a million units on playstation 2 in japan alone. Dead rising, Lost planet and resident evil 5 from capcom, and more games that we have not seen yet, I don't know if xbox 360 can sell more hardware than playstation 3, but if xbox 360 keeps coming out with more games to appeal to the japanese market then they may have a chance, some people may laugh at that idea, but I think that because of the high price of the playstation 3, it is possible.
i dont care really if the ps3 is more expensive compared to 360, in the end next gen consoles should have power (not brick size kind of power) in the processor, graphics and gameplay. this all should be done in a single box not 1 with external components.
every company apporoaching a different audience. leave it at that
well i save 100 dollars over the ps3 to simply not get the hd dvd drive. hell thats the only thing that costs and arm or leg. Don't forget that XBox live PS doesn't compare w/ the unorganized laggy POS online capabilities.
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