Posted Nov 28, 2008 at 09:59AM by Gino D.
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 D-Dub Software, a video game studio specializing in adult-themed games that involve a lot of *ahem* explicit sex and nudity (i.e. BoneTown, a PC game which makes GTA's Hot Coffee mod look not-so-Hot-after-all), is waging war against the ESRB and the three major console manufacturers.Since D-Dub can't market their game out in the open, they're now on a mission to take the first step in what they hope to be an eventual "adult video game industry." Their first step is basically to squeeze past ESRB, Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft. Trying to avoid the ESRB's grasp may be understandable given their situation, but why include the console manufacturers, you ask? As some of you may know, the big three aren't quite friendly in licensing Adults Only (AO) games for their console. D-Dub's CEO commented the following: It doesn’t make sense. The ratings boards are not telling us that these games aren’t for kids. We know that already. What they’re telling us is that adult games shouldn’t exist at all. We don’t agree, and neither does our customer base of adults who are interested in games that might include themes like sex, drugs, and language. Since they’ve made it so that games like ours can’t be marketed and distributed through the channels other video games use, we are starting a new industry to get this game out to our customers. Their move now is to push for online sales. "Through the channels other video games use" basically means retail. On top of the ESRB and the big three hounding AO titles, retailers themselves will hardly touch them, leaving the Internet as the only viable option for releasing BoneTown. Related articles:
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by Hypodrive - 2008-11-28 |
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» Hmm
Even if you don't want these games they do have a point. Censorship is a slippery slope and saying a certain game shouldn't exist is ridiculous.
For Example:
If you don't like Violent games don't buy GTA. If you don't like porn games don't buy BoneTown. Just don't try to tell D-Dub or Rockstar they can't make their game cause you don't think it's right.
Even if you don't want these games they do have a point. Censorship is a slippery slope and saying a certain game shouldn't exist is ridiculous.
For Example:
If you don't like Violent games don't buy GTA. If you don't like porn games don't buy BoneTown. Just don't try to tell D-Dub or Rockstar they can't make their game cause you don't think it's right.
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Re: damonous - 2008-11-28 |
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» Oh come on....
It's a different story when Thompson or whomever is acting like GTA is some sort of 'realistic portrayal of life' ......and some smut-kings trying to 'dirty-up' videogames like they've done with the home video market. I like the quote, "..our customer base of adults who are interested in games that might include..." ---what a crock of smelly BS!!! They're looking to market to kids, clear and simple. And anyone they can. Just so that they can get cash. ...But for them to say "our customer base"? LOL! ...I'm an adult, but they can kindly not include me in their smut-filled crap-master market, thank you. --They make it sound like (with "customer base") that there is some legion of adult gamers who are just chomping at the bit to play digitized porn games. LOL. --Yeah, right. That's the first thing that always comes to mind when I'm talking with my friends: not LBP; not Resistance2; not Dead Space. ....No, we WANT PORN, and now!!! ---Yeah, right.
It's a different story when Thompson or whomever is acting like GTA is some sort of 'realistic portrayal of life' ......and some smut-kings trying to 'dirty-up' videogames like they've done with the home video market. I like the quote, "..our customer base of adults who are interested in games that might include..." ---what a crock of smelly BS!!! They're looking to market to kids, clear and simple. And anyone they can. Just so that they can get cash. ...But for them to say "our customer base"? LOL! ...I'm an adult, but they can kindly not include me in their smut-filled crap-master market, thank you. --They make it sound like (with "customer base") that there is some legion of adult gamers who are just chomping at the bit to play digitized porn games. LOL. --Yeah, right. That's the first thing that always comes to mind when I'm talking with my friends: not LBP; not Resistance2; not Dead Space. ....No, we WANT PORN, and now!!! ---Yeah, right.
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Re: rollypoly - 2008-11-30 |
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» less zeal...
"smut-filled crap-master market"?
i get smut-filled, but what is "crap-master"?
if you are indeed an adult, then you should be mature enough to leave the name calling at the door and address the ideas...
just like the legions of people chomping at the bit to buy those GGW dvds, or calling phone sex lines, or paying prostitutes... none of which i have done (or have talked with any friends that will admit it), but that doesn't mean there isn't a market for it.
just because i have no interest in your little big planet, and none of my friends give a "crap-master" doesn't mean anyone who says different has a nefarious scheme to corrupt the youth of the world with "***** levels" and "sack" boys...
"smut-filled crap-master market"?
i get smut-filled, but what is "crap-master"?
if you are indeed an adult, then you should be mature enough to leave the name calling at the door and address the ideas...
just like the legions of people chomping at the bit to buy those GGW dvds, or calling phone sex lines, or paying prostitutes... none of which i have done (or have talked with any friends that will admit it), but that doesn't mean there isn't a market for it.
just because i have no interest in your little big planet, and none of my friends give a "crap-master" doesn't mean anyone who says different has a nefarious scheme to corrupt the youth of the world with "***** levels" and "sack" boys...
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Re: ackeejag - 2008-11-30 |
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» to damonous
your values are you own. what is smut to you might be completely normal to another. For that reason you can't hope to set laws based on something as fickle as personal values. just make your choice as a consumer and let others do that same.
your values are you own. what is smut to you might be completely normal to another. For that reason you can't hope to set laws based on something as fickle as personal values. just make your choice as a consumer and let others do that same.
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by triac - 2008-11-28 |
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» .
"What they’re telling us is that adult games shouldn’t exist at all."
Why did "biggest porn industry worldwide" come to my mind right now?
"What they’re telling us is that adult games shouldn’t exist at all."
Why did "biggest porn industry worldwide" come to my mind right now?
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by DarkXCloud - 2008-11-28 |
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» .
Little pirates are sure gonna get their hands on a PC Adult game.
Little pirates are sure gonna get their hands on a PC Adult game.
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by hush404 - 2008-11-28 |
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» Thing is
If Sony, Mircosoft or Nintendo don't give the green light to license a game on their said system, then it does NOT get to that system. Simple as that. Thus, there's no "going around" those giants - a simple "You're not putting that on our system" ends the talks.
The only place you would be able to get an Adult Only game would be the PC and just about every retail store and credible online stores refuse to sell games with that rating. Thus the only option would be digital download - which - without being backed by a big service will just fail.
If Sony, Mircosoft or Nintendo don't give the green light to license a game on their said system, then it does NOT get to that system. Simple as that. Thus, there's no "going around" those giants - a simple "You're not putting that on our system" ends the talks.
The only place you would be able to get an Adult Only game would be the PC and just about every retail store and credible online stores refuse to sell games with that rating. Thus the only option would be digital download - which - without being backed by a big service will just fail.
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Re: Shatterdome - 2008-11-28 |
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» Thing is...
There is already a ton of adult oriented games on the market, not just by these guys. The market is even bigger in Japan with new games comming out every month.
They really don't need reputable sites to sell this stuff, there are plenty of adult sites that they can sell their stuff on, hell amazon.com sells porn, so why not porn games...maybe they do already, I havn't checked for games :P
Considering at least half if not more of 360/ps3 owners are adults, and lots of them want adult rated games, this really should be a no brainer.....just don't have the games displayed on the shelf of Gamestop.....sell them online, or make it so you have to ask the cashier for it....
There is already a ton of adult oriented games on the market, not just by these guys. The market is even bigger in Japan with new games comming out every month.
They really don't need reputable sites to sell this stuff, there are plenty of adult sites that they can sell their stuff on, hell amazon.com sells porn, so why not porn games...maybe they do already, I havn't checked for games :P
Considering at least half if not more of 360/ps3 owners are adults, and lots of them want adult rated games, this really should be a no brainer.....just don't have the games displayed on the shelf of Gamestop.....sell them online, or make it so you have to ask the cashier for it....
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by hush404 - 2008-11-28 |
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» Thing is
If Sony, Mircosoft or Nintendo don't give the green light to license a game on their said system, then it does NOT get to that system. Simple as that. Thus, there's no "going around" those giants - a simple "You're not putting that on our system" ends the talks.
The only place you would be able to get an Adult Only game would be the PC and just about every retail store and credible online stores refuse to sell games with that rating. Thus the only option would be digital download - which - without being backed by a big service will just fail.
If Sony, Mircosoft or Nintendo don't give the green light to license a game on their said system, then it does NOT get to that system. Simple as that. Thus, there's no "going around" those giants - a simple "You're not putting that on our system" ends the talks.
The only place you would be able to get an Adult Only game would be the PC and just about every retail store and credible online stores refuse to sell games with that rating. Thus the only option would be digital download - which - without being backed by a big service will just fail.
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by Djhg2000 - 2008-11-28 |
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» Possible market?
They should really check out Open Pandora; no ratings, everyone's free to run any code on it and more powerful than the iPhone.
I know, sounds just like I'm trying to sell you something, but I doubt the Open Pandora team's bothered by games like this...
They should really check out Open Pandora; no ratings, everyone's free to run any code on it and more powerful than the iPhone.
I know, sounds just like I'm trying to sell you something, but I doubt the Open Pandora team's bothered by games like this...
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Re: Shatterdome - 2008-11-28 |
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» Very cool...
Little device....thought GPX type systems were dead, good to see I thought wrong...
very tempted to replace my psp with that...
Little device....thought GPX type systems were dead, good to see I thought wrong...
very tempted to replace my psp with that...
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Re: Aces In The Palm - 2008-11-29 |
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» hmmm
i think they should talk to DAX and get a psp toolchain and m33 SDK, develope it as homebrew and sell it through thier site.
maybe using a 25 digit serial key so you show you've paid when they update the core for 5.10m33, 5.20m33 and so forth
i think they should talk to DAX and get a psp toolchain and m33 SDK, develope it as homebrew and sell it through thier site.
maybe using a 25 digit serial key so you show you've paid when they update the core for 5.10m33, 5.20m33 and so forth
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by GUNBEHINDTHESUN - 2008-11-29 |
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» About time
I'm sure that a lot of people will be happy once this is implemented, including myself.
I'm sure that a lot of people will be happy once this is implemented, including myself.
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by ShadeyProphet - 2008-11-29 |
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» yeah i gotta be honest.
having adult themes in games could be a good thing if it's done right.
I wouldn't want to see video porn though. I want to see quality games with a few adult themes like God of war was.
not like leasure suit larry or playboy mansion.
make a good game first, then add some adult content. don't make an adult theme game thats just a bunch of video game characters having sex and flashing each other just to make a quick buck.
I think I speak for a lot of us when i say we can get our porn almost anywhere.
having adult themes in games could be a good thing if it's done right.
I wouldn't want to see video porn though. I want to see quality games with a few adult themes like God of war was.
not like leasure suit larry or playboy mansion.
make a good game first, then add some adult content. don't make an adult theme game thats just a bunch of video game characters having sex and flashing each other just to make a quick buck.
I think I speak for a lot of us when i say we can get our porn almost anywhere.
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by Aces In The Palm - 2008-11-29 |
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» this post feels empty
we need an isohaven post
isohaven and mister common sense might hate each other
but their arguments are very informative
neither resort to name calling and have brilliant points in all their posts
a few i admit go beyond
but this looks like something you would have an opinion in isohaven?
in australia F.E.A.R. was just rejected of rating
its crap
if you act out games then you are wrong in the head...its not the games fault
anyhow no flames iso
im interested in your opinion
promise no flames no name calling
we need an isohaven post
isohaven and mister common sense might hate each other
but their arguments are very informative
neither resort to name calling and have brilliant points in all their posts
a few i admit go beyond
but this looks like something you would have an opinion in isohaven?
in australia F.E.A.R. was just rejected of rating
its crap
if you act out games then you are wrong in the head...its not the games fault
anyhow no flames iso
im interested in your opinion
promise no flames no name calling
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by Consequence_9 - 2008-11-29 |
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» seriously?
Does anyone really need to play porn? Is watching it not enough or something?
Does anyone really need to play porn? Is watching it not enough or something?
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by LordRussell - 2008-11-29 |
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» Some of you younger guys...
When I was a kid, comic books were a way of life. When my dad was a kid, your mom threw your 'comics' away because they were evil or would rot your brain (so they called them magazines. That way they sounded like they were more expensive and wouldn't be as likely to throw them away).
ANYWAY.... The "Comics Code" was just the god of all gods when it came to comics. If you didn't have their seal then you were publishing trash and were catering to the sleezes of society.
Now look at it... They are once again busting away from a "CODE" and going to full blown novels. They call them "Graphic Novels" now, which I suppose makes them immune to the laws of the frigid housewives?
They contain adult language and themes as well as more gore than a chum festival off the back of a fishing boat.
So what is the ****ing difference? Its have never caused the world to stop rotating and had it not been for tits, some of us wouldn't be here right now.
Leisure Suit Larry had his turn in the barrel and still made a profit for somebody, this won't be any different.
All the Quakers out there need to stop fearing what lurks in their trousers and start living a little.
When I was a kid, comic books were a way of life. When my dad was a kid, your mom threw your 'comics' away because they were evil or would rot your brain (so they called them magazines. That way they sounded like they were more expensive and wouldn't be as likely to throw them away).
ANYWAY.... The "Comics Code" was just the god of all gods when it came to comics. If you didn't have their seal then you were publishing trash and were catering to the sleezes of society.
Now look at it... They are once again busting away from a "CODE" and going to full blown novels. They call them "Graphic Novels" now, which I suppose makes them immune to the laws of the frigid housewives?
They contain adult language and themes as well as more gore than a chum festival off the back of a fishing boat.
So what is the ****ing difference? Its have never caused the world to stop rotating and had it not been for tits, some of us wouldn't be here right now.
Leisure Suit Larry had his turn in the barrel and still made a profit for somebody, this won't be any different.
All the Quakers out there need to stop fearing what lurks in their trousers and start living a little.
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Re: RommelTJ - 2008-11-30 |
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» Whole-heartedly agree
First, if a product is legal, and you are able and willing to sell said product, then it is WRONG to BAN it from sale.
Second, it is ridiculous to say that these games would not have a consumer base.
Third, it's just sex.
Finally, is it possible to buy D-Dub software stock?
First, if a product is legal, and you are able and willing to sell said product, then it is WRONG to BAN it from sale.
Second, it is ridiculous to say that these games would not have a consumer base.
Third, it's just sex.
Finally, is it possible to buy D-Dub software stock?
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by marcosatti1 - 2008-11-30 |
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» Haha
Australia doesn't have an R rating, so it wont come into here :P
(MA15 can contain very very VERY small nudity, such as God of War)
Australia doesn't have an R rating, so it wont come into here :P
(MA15 can contain very very VERY small nudity, such as God of War)
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by SolidXnake - 2008-12-01 |
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» Oh well
Should be treated as another MA game and those who dont watch the labels then you are doomed when you get home just to know your 5 year old kid playing GoW III and watching some tits- Or worse, playing that Pron game ! it's all about what the parents allowed their children to play. They want a game, then just investigate what the game is about if you dont know and that's it. There is not difference from this to GTAIV, same ideology.
Should be treated as another MA game and those who dont watch the labels then you are doomed when you get home just to know your 5 year old kid playing GoW III and watching some tits- Or worse, playing that Pron game ! it's all about what the parents allowed their children to play. They want a game, then just investigate what the game is about if you dont know and that's it. There is not difference from this to GTAIV, same ideology.
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by cricket_dakid - 2008-12-03 |
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» ...
I hope someone releases a crack soon.
I hope someone releases a crack soon.
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