Posted Aug 22, 2006 at 03:16PM by Karl B. Listed in: Controller Tags: motion-sensing, Lionhead Studios, Peter Molyneux
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Peter MolyneuxLionhead's Peter Molyneux brought up a very real and relevant concern during his speech at the Leipzig GCDC: that motion-sensing controllers could leave gamers exhausted and out of breath unless developers think creatively.

A self-confessed lazy gamer, Molyneux said, "I've realised I'm an incredibly lazy person when I play games, and actually slouching back on the sofa, playing on my beer belly, is my most comfortable position. When I have to get up, it's painful. I make noises and start grunting." Hmm. It's nice to know that even a developer of Molyneux's stature still suffers the same gaming-related stresses as most of us.

With the advent of the motion-sensing controller, this is a very real issue indeed. While motion-sensing controllers are without a doubt quite a step into the future of gaming, we sincerely doubt that gamers would be pleased at having to make hacking and slashing motions for hours at a time when they're playing through an action-intensive game.

"I think motion-sensitivity is very, very useful, but I think the obvious way of doing it - unless you're dealing with a 15 to 20 minute experience at most of actually being hugely physical - is not where the opportunity lies here," Molyneux said.

But all that doesn't mean Molyneux sees no place for motion-sensing in gaming - simply that he believes that the challenge is not in going for the most obvious gameplay use of motion-sensing controllers, but in finding ways to utilize these features to bring about a better and more fun-filled gaming experience.

What about you guys? We wanna hear your thoughts on this matter, so feel free to leave a comment.


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   by TheDude - 2006-08-22
 » maybe for Wii

I wouldn't worry about it for ps3 because you still have the ability to just use the normal controls and developers will hopefully make it optional all together. But the Wii on the other hand could make your arms tired after a while.

   by Mr Doc (Unregistered) - 2006-08-22

If its going to tire you out you really need to get out more because you'll have a heart attack before youre 30. Does nobody play tennis or basketball anymore?

Anyway, Peters not made a decent game in many many years...... and the fact hes linked to MS now....

   by maru_mari - 2006-08-22
 » did he even play with the Wiimote at E3??

The Wiimote is sensitive enough to rest on your fat beer belly and flick your wrist. Heaven forbid if someone actually breaks a sweat playing a sports game where you are really into swinging that bat or racket. You mean, now I have to lift my whole arm, not just a finger??!! I'm not worried about the Big N's use of motion sensing, these guys spend as much time designing their controllers as the systems they go with.

The ps3 on the other hand. Well I think I'll get tired from shaking the controller trying to get a response out of it after the first couple months. Of course they will have fixed that problem by the time I actually purchase a ps3.

   by Ethan (Unregistered) - 2006-08-22
 » Mr Doc,

I play tennis a lot, and am in very good shape because of it. But one of the things I like to do after I just played a 2 hour match, is sit back and play a video game with my thumbs. Which is why I am going to see what peoples reactions are to the wii, before I go out and get one. I dont want to be flailing my arms around all over the place when I play video games, since video games are how I like to relax, not get in shape. Im not worried about the PS3 though, since it wont have swinging motions, just a slight tilting or shaking at the most.

   by trash115 (Unregistered) - 2006-08-22
 » I question Peter Molyneux's value

This guy is an idiot, and his comment is pretty darn biased considering he just got bought out by MS. There really isn't a whole lot of waving around going on with the PS3 controller.

   by stupid fanboy (Unregistered) - 2006-08-22
 » Sarcasm



Ofcourse anyone who says anything even almost bad about the PS3 has to be an idiot.



   by Strider (Unregistered) - 2006-08-22
 » Ugh.....



If there is a problem, it will most likely be more directed toward the Wii...which is ALL about motion sensing....

I have to admit though, I've played Time Crisis for hours in the arcade....and I've never gotten tired, If anything, its like a adrenaline rush...

Wii+360>PS3

   by ah (Unregistered) - 2006-08-22
 » ah

Is that guy Gay?

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   by KnowLedge - 2006-08-22
 » What's wrong with his statement?

Flailing your arms around the room will make you look like an idiot, and it won't be relaxing at all.

He is backing up motion sensing, as in PS3 controller, when you don't have to stand up and flail your arms.

   by Cyport (Unregistered) - 2006-08-22
 » Of course..

Just what I expected to hear for a Xbox 'worker' Pointing out bad news at other consoles when actually they are the wrong ones. But i do agree about not having to wave your hands all the time, After shaking my hands in a repeating situaion for more that 2 mins I can start to feel tired, so i agree it sould be cut down a little bit.

   by sadffsd (Unregistered) - 2006-08-22
 » dfsdsf

I think he is correct, and this will inspire some great games (hey ddr is exausting, but it's still a great game)

   by nbz (Unregistered) - 2006-08-22
 » yes..

i think i will stick to the cube version of the new zelda because of this..hacking my way through an entire action-RPG sounds like a bit much. i might as well go buy a sword and go on my own adventure ;). but seriously, i have questioned this aspect of the wii for a while now. gamers like to be lazy.. its one of the reasons we play games in the first place.

   by Crash (Unregistered) - 2006-08-22
 » well

It should be an option to change between motion sensing and just the controler, atleast with the ps3. I don't think its going to be much of a workout using the PS3 controler or the Wiimote unless you are really out of shape and walking up the stairs makes you winded. I see both sides of the argument but saying that moving your hands and waving your arms is a pretty weak argument. Unless i'm gaming at 3 in the morning being tired usually isn't much of an issue. I can't sit still when I play games as it is sometimes.

   by Hidden (Unregistered) - 2006-08-22
 » Agreed

Totally feel his point when I hear about Wii I feel that same way as he does. He brings up a great point that is in my opion not really saying anything about ps3.

6 degrees of motion is hardly going to make you have to put forth much effort...It will be awesome in FPS games and I truly for the first time am looking forward to FPS's on a consol. It will be more like playing with a mouse where everything is basiclly related to human rection times. could make sports games harder tho, and I dont see what effect it would have on an rpg at all.

However like he said the test for devs. will be showing us how it does work in these kinds of games and showing us the potental of next gen games. Very exciting in my opinion.

   by Sant Clause (Unregistered) - 2006-08-22
 » pish

I'm sure he wouldn't complain if Wii came out with "WiiMasterbate". Shake the controller as many times as you can in a minute and see the results as beautiful women cross the screen. "When I have to get up, it's painful. I make noises and start grunting." We're sure you do buddy. But still, go play frisbee or something.

   by zeroblitz (Unregistered) - 2006-08-22

i dont like motion sensor reason number 1 their no rumble on ps3 reason#2 when iam laying on my bed relaxing i dont want to have to move my arms al over the place tilting them right and left to much work i mean sometimes my fingures get tired

   by R U 4 Real!?! (Unregistered) - 2006-08-22

C'mon people its not that hard to swing a couple of times! Maybe its a good thing that people are going to have to do a few motions while playing a game so that half the bloody world doesnt get even more obese then it already is.

"What cured the obesity epidemic grandpa???"

"It was the Nintendo Wii"

(what i wrote above is nonsense) Its not like playing using motion sensing on your favourite regular games is going to make you in to some fit sporty beast of a person. All the remote is going to do is increase the gaming experience and I can't wait to get mine on launch day! You've all somehow managed to use your fingers so easily for so long so I feel it will become a natural progression. . . eventually.

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   by Jettic (Unregistered) - 2006-08-22
 » Why do I want to become lazy and fat like him?

nocomment

   by sinjinn (Unregistered) - 2006-08-23
 » i agree and also..

i think we should revert back to the days of one button and one directional pad. 8 or nine buttons have thier place in things like pc's where they have 'words' and 'sentences' but in a video game they really detract from the core gaming experience and focus of having just the 'one' button. 'one button to find them , one button to in the darkness bind them ' , oh btw , this has nothing to do with the fact that I am the CEO of a compnay that sells 'one button' arcade machines. that ofcourse has nothign to do with my opinion.

   by 5 (Unregistered) - 2006-08-23
 » 5

THAT GUY LOOKS LIKE HE MIGHT BE GAY!!!!!!!!!!!

   by cubiCPixel - 2006-08-23
 » Frecken Lazy Ass Fat People



You fatsos allways critisize exercise being hard and boring. We have here people tring to make games more interactive where all you have to do is to TILT the controler and your still complaning..?

Whats wrong with you. It i'll probably be the only fun way to do a little exercise... and its not even the point.

I'm tired of pressing on single buttons to do actions. Some games require more interactivity with in game objects such as MOVEMENT. Sport games for exemple should be completely emerge with the players position / speed of movement.

Moving the joystick slowly or fast dosn't have much space for diversity. We are talking here of about an inch of interactivity... but whatever.

"...we sincerely doubt that gamers would be pleased at having to make hacking and slashing motions for hours at a time..." What the hell? ˙fuuck ya thats what I want. I'll never go outside if comes to that. Only fat idiots would say $hit like that. Just hold your beer and give me the controler busta.


   by BigGoronSword (Unregistered) - 2006-08-23
 » People can be soo lazy sometimes

I think using motion sensing is the next step to put excersize and make it even more fun together. For the fat lazy people who are complaining it's because of this: In a game, you can swing/climg ropes, fight, run, etc...without using any energy. So essentially, the fat player succeeds in something that he can't do in reality. But when it comes to reality, he's probably one of the worst (you know, low self esteem, so that's why he stays in and plays a video game of Mario Tennis instead of honing the real tools of playing the game).

Now fat kids are complaining because now they actually have to have more skill than dexterity of the thumbs, index, and middle fingers.

I say Nintendo is doing a great thing for parents. This may make them think that their kids are doing more than just sitting around...and hopefully try to convince the kids to do OMG actually physical activity.

Purpose of video games: To tell a story, to submerge the player in a new world, without using much thought, imagination, or movement.

Motion sensing: Takes away the last three things of what's above.

Parents want kids to be more active (physically and mentally. Video games has taken that away from sports and books).

If you're a lazy ass: Don't buy active games. Some games you'll be able to play with the GC remote (like Brawl), while others may use the the sensor as much as you use your computer mouse.

Games like Twilight Princess and Red Steel where you'll need to swing the remote around, I'm sure that you may strain your wrist or arms (you weaklings), but that's a great way to stop, put down the remote, and "rest". Technically, one shouldn't play a video game for hours on end (bad for the eyes), and even if you can, it doesn't make you better than anyone else.

If motion sensing is the thing of the future, then get in shape, because everyone else isn't going to wait for you.

Someone mentioned Time Crisis....god I hope that makes it for a Wii release.

   by Bobbin (Unregistered) - 2006-08-24
 » Just returned from GC...

... so in contradiction to most of you guys I already played with the Wii (and yes, it's not playable for the public but fortunately I had access to the business area). Well, I personally can't image playing a Wii game for more than an hour, probably even less.

The experience you get is rather close to Eye Toy although less exhausting. But you actually move your hands a lot, in case of Red Steel you stretch out your arms all the time. Then the games control better while standing. I didn't see anyone who sat down while playing Wii because you just can't move that well. For me the Wii is the equivalent of the PS2s party games - fun, but not meant for serious gaming sessions. For that I'm still hoping for the PS3 which just stunned me with the presentation of Assassin's Creed - the Wii games look like early PS2 games in comparison to it...



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